We estimate how well we will know the parameters of solar neutrino oscillations after KamLAND and Borexino. The expected error on Deltam(2) is few per-mille in the VO and QVO regions, few per-cent in the LMA region, and around 10% in the LOW region. The expected error on sin(2) 2theta is around 5%. KamLAND and Borexino will tell unambiguously which specific new measurement, dedicated to pp solar neutrinos, is able to contribute to the determination of theta and perhaps of Deltam(2). The present data suggest as more likely outcomes: no measurement, or the total pp rate, or its day/night variation.